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TRIAL OF JOSEF KRAMER
AND FORTY-FOUR OTHERS
(The Belsen Trial) .
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Evidence for the Defendant Klippel
 
Josef Klippel
they brought the potatoes eight or ten Hungarian soldiers came with machine-guns, so nobody dared come near to steal anything.

By the JUDGE ADVOCATE — When you were in Bergen during these last few days where did you get your water from? — The Wehrmacht brought it in two water wagons.

Could you get as much water as you wanted? — They started with the kitchens and when they had finished with the amount needed there they went round and stocked each block.

During the last three or four days had you water in which you could wash yourself? — No, there was not enough. We had to save it for the kitchen. If we wanted to have a wash we went to the concrete pond.

What was the capacity of these water tanks? — They were motor trucks holding 1500 litres.

Were they going round the barracks day and night? — Yes.

Did you know that in the camp at Belsen a large number of people were suffering acutely from lack of water to drink? — I only heard that not far away there was a concentration camp with many prisoners.

Were there enough internees in the Wehrmacht Barracks to keep these two motor trucks busy morning, noon and night delivering essential water so that people could drink? — Yes, there were about 15,000 prisoners. I cooked twice for them and that was30,000 litres.

Could you drink what you liked or were you put on a ration? — Perhaps half a litre per day.

PAUL KREUTZER, sworn, examined by Major CRANFIELD — I was a Hauptscharführer in the S.S and was in the administration at Mittelbau from January, 1944, until 5th April, 1945. I saw Josef Klippel, whom I identify, frequently at Mittelbau, and the last time I saw him was on the afternoon of 5th April. I arrived at Bergen-Belsen either on 9th or 10th April and left there at 0200 hours on, I believe, the night 11th-12th April. We went to the concentration camp at Neuengamme.

During the time you were in the barracks at Bergen-Belsen did you hear anything of a Hauptsturmführer Kramer? — I personally do not know anything about it, but I assume that Hauptsturmführer Brenneis, who was in charge of our party, had some dealings with Kramer. I was never told at Bergen-Belsen that I was under the command of Kramer.

Cross-examined by Captain FIELDEN — Do you know who was in charge of the bath-house at Dora? — No.

Did you ever see No. 22 (Ansgar Pichen) at Dora? — I do not know him.  
 
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